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  • #150725

    Goofyfan_Chuck
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    Passholder information.

    Please try not to do a spit take, as you see the prices — I will not be held responsible for damaged screens.

    https://chipandco.com/disney-world-annual-passes-available-sept-8th-443332/

    #150729

    starbee
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    What bothers me with these is that Memory Maker is no longer included. When you’re shelling out that much money for an AP, they should throw that in there. Yet another perk removed :angry: I don’t want to hear about “lost profits”, they’re still making billions for starters, they laid off 32,000 Cast Members, Iger said he’d work for free so there’s that, and Disney stock increased by something like 35% during the pandemic. They’re doing just fine without needing to nickel and dime their guests.

    #150731

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    I agree with @starbee. They keep taking more and more away and raising the prices also. :angry: I know several friends/families that have decided to go to Universal instead because it is more affordable for their larger family than going to Disney World. I don’t blame them either. They need to get Chapek outta there!

    #150732

    starbee
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    They need to get Chapek outta there!

    I’m not sure he knows what he’s doing.

    As for Universal – way more affordable, they constantly have deals/specials, and despite the pandemic they continued to open their new ride on time. In the time it’s taken Disney to work on GotG and TRON, Universal have opened a new water park, 2 rollercoasters, 3 resort hotels and 1 new stage show. On top of that Universal prices have hardly increased compared to what Disney have done. For whatever reason it seems like Universal want to provide something for everyone but Disney only wants to target the business of the upper class.

    #150742

    Nascfan
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    I absolutely agree with starbee and Ccoop73. More things that were always included with the price now being add ons, and the prices continuing to rise. No thank you. :( :angry:

    #150747

    PaydirtBurt
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    I agree with @starbee and @Ccoop73. We still have to see if, as they ramp back up from the pandemic any the “magical” experiences will come back, be replaced or just become a misty memory. I too love the “all inclusive” type of vacation WDW offered and HATE, let me repeat that HATE, the nickle and dime model that they seem to be moving to. That said I will be going back next year for the 50th anniversary of MY first visit. We will be celebrating my wife’s birthday and our wedding anniversary, but truthfully, if it was not for my 50th anniversary of my first visit, we would no be going to WDW.


    @starbee
    , don’t fool yourself Chapek knows exactly what he is doing. When you use words like “data points” and “talking about our Company’s priorities” not things like “our vision is.” He’s a numbers man, plain and simple all he understands is the bottom line, I won’t even go into the Scarlett Johansson fiasco. Things like good will and “magical” experiences are hard to quantify on the bottom line, so hard for him to grasp. Iger, like Eisner, was a media biased person with vision in that arena and it showed. I also think that the board gets to vote on Chapek in two years. If say parks attendance dips, things will change. It’s a pendulum.

    Trying to bring this back to end on a positive note, I believe that Disney is more than the CEO, and has a culture and workforce that will allow it to rebound. Don’t believe me? Well, all you need is faith, oh, and dust! Dust? Uh huh, pixie dust! :tink:


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    @starbee
    , don’t fool yourself Chapek knows exactly what he is doing. When you use words like “data points” and “talking about our Company’s priorities” not things like “our vision is.” He’s a numbers man, plain and simple all he understands is the bottom line, I won’t even go into the Scarlett Johansson fiasco. Things like good will and “magical” experiences are hard to quantify on the bottom line, so hard for him to grasp. Iger, like Eisner, was a media biased person with vision in that arena and it showed. I also think that the board gets to vote on Chapek in two years. If say parks attendance dips, things will change. It’s a pendulum.

    I phrased that badly. I know he’s looking at numbers but I’m not sure if he’s taking the right approach because he’s focusing on instant gratification – how much can we get one family to spend on one trip? If they never return – who cares! I think personally that long term loyalty would make better fiscal sense. If someone spends less money (but still a bunch I might add!) but returns 20 times THEN how much can we make? They don’t want to focus on big picture anymore, just here and now, but I don’t know what the long term result of that will be. Like you said, a pendulum. Here’s hoping it blow’s up in his face and things get set right. I’m really curious how this affects DVC sales.

    #150759

    PaydirtBurt
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    Agreed! :up: :up: My only slight tweak to your comment is Disney needs to focus on both long and short term goals. There has to be a middle ground. And that is from a stock holder. While I’m happy for Disney to make more and more money. and pass it onto me, I’m in for long haul, so it needs to be sustainable.

    You know one thing I’m surprised that Disney, as a company or individual operating units, has not jumped on the bandwagon for is a loyalty program, like, wellllllllllll……. can we say most everyone else? I think that would not hurt or harm the one time visitor, but they could use that to say, offset the fees for multiple time visitors and would be a good way, IMHO, entice folks to come back and or stay longer. Like we love to shop at the more local and smaller grocery stores, but Kroger offers fuel points, so guess where we go to shop? Or my health insurance company will discount my payments if I jump thru a bunch of hoops they set up. One caveat would be it should not be based “solely” on dinero $pent, but you get points for staying on site (the points are set by which hotel/room you get, not necessarily the room cost), eating on site (of course eating at V&A Chef’s Table gets you more points than the churro cart :) ), using onsite transportation (don’t know how to implement that short of tap points at each transportation node, which is doable and might be a good idea so they can distribute busses better), participating in surveys (the used to at least off a fastpass for taking one), heck what about points for participating in a RunDisney event. for an annual pass holder you get some point for coughing up the cash for the AP, but say get a discounted number of points for park entry, but a pulsed number of points for buying something (probably the biggest knock on APs they don’t spend enough in the park).

    Now, if this were Disney corporate wide, things like the more you watch you Disney+, HULU, ESPN bundle the more points you get. Okay probably not the best idea, you could just leave your Disney+ streaming all day for the dog. :pluto: But still points, for being a Disney+ subscriber, Shop Disney purchases, or they could partner with a retail outlet, say Target since it is the new Disney Store, so purchases beyond Disney merch there count.

    The points could be then used for, well the world is open, extra Lightning Lane Passes, discounts on rooms/tickets/food/merch, special “affinity card holder” meet & greets, “affinity card holder” lounges at the parks (I like this one), early access to online items, giveaways (ala annual pass holder perks).

    Wow, I think I have sold myself on this idea, sign me up! :up: :gold:

    Gawd, I have thought about this too much!

    I guess the Cliff Notes of what I’m getting at is, find a way to reward the loyal/long term fans/visitors and fleece, err “maximize profits from”, the one timers.

    #150760

    starbee
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    Haha! I get what you’re saying. Kind of like the reward points Disney Visa cardholders get but for everything Disney related that you do. I also kinda like your idea of some form of loyalty bundle. Like how I get a discount for having home and auto insurance through the same carrier, there could be some recognition of 1) I have a Disney Visa 2) I have Disney+ 3) I’m an Annual Passholder, etc. therefore I get ___ perk.

    Not to always draw comparison with Universal (but I do because they have some great ideas that apply here) but they have constant deals for their AP holders along with other perks, and something they do almost all the time is “stay more save more”. Disney kind of does that by making the price per day of their tickets cheaper with the more days you buy, but Universal’s extends to their resorts too. For example: 1-3 nights full price, 4-7 nights 20% off, 8+ nights 30% off – for anyone and at any hotel. Disney has done similar things periodically but I have ALWAYS gotten a deal like that (although the exact numbers may fluctuate) on every one of my Universal trips and I’ve been visiting since 1999.

    #150761

    PaydirtBurt
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    I have no experience with Universal, but if Universal is doing it right, then we and Disney should draw away!

    Yea, while having the Disney Credit Card for my wife or myself we get better use out of other cards, we just don’t do enough “Disney” stuff to make it worth it to us. Same thing with DVC and AP. But would be nice to be rewarded for being an all around Disney consumer. Might actually incentivize us to do more.

    Okay, I did talk to Michael Eisner once, well he called me to congratulate me on my graduation from high school. I guess it’s time to call Bob and give him a piece of my mind since I seem to be on first name basis with the CEOs. :surprised: Or sell him my loyalty program idea! :gold: Then I can throw a D-Cot party in the Castle Suite.

    #150763

    starbee
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    I mean they’re not perfect either, I’m not saying that, but there are some real simple things they have done better for a long time. Right, these things aren’t always for everyone but if there’s no incentive what would make any one do any of these things?

    Okay, I did talk to Michael Eisner once, well he called me to congratulate me on my graduation from high school. I guess it’s time to call Bob and give him a piece of my mind since I seem to be on first name basis with the CEOs. :surprised: Or sell him my loyalty program idea! :gold: Then I can throw a D-Cot party in the Castle Suite.

    Um, yes, fix this! LOL

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