FastPass cheaters

Once again, it seems the paper system was far less complicated. But oh well! What’s done is done.

the old paper passes were fool proof! Dumb computer stuff!

Gibbs wrote:

Is it just me, or does fast pass plus make the standby lines really long and good fast passes really scarce?

It really does.

This happened two weeks ago, both at Figment and Splash Mountain. The line for each seemed reasonable (Figment 20, Splash 45). We waited a half hour for Figment before leaving for a lunch reservation, but for Splash, it took us AN HOUR AND A HALF. We believe this has to do with Fastpass.

Earlier on in the day, both attractions had broken down. All Fastpasses during that time may be used for a single separate attraction once for the rest of the day. But most people save the Fastpass for when the ride is back up. The standby queue then gets all backed up and there are LOTS OF COMPLAINING GROUCHY PEOPLE. Fastpass is pretty ridiculous sometimes. :hmmph:

Jloosh78 wrote:

This is what happens when you try to fix something that isn’t broken! I can’t imagine this is more cost effective or time saving than the old way. Would love to see a wait times study of each attraction with the current system and the old system.

Josh on EasyWDW more or less did that. BIG difference between the two for sure. Before FP+ Spaceship Earth was a walk-on much of the time, but then when it was added to FP+ and they tiered Epcot’s system, The line would actually wrap the extended queue. I was astonished! That said, HS is much worse as MOST of the attractions on FP+ there are Tier 1’s and the Tier 2’s, save for ToT are most always walk-ons, so you don’t need a FP for them

Sorry for the rant. I just can’t get over the silliness of it all.

I don’t miss the old system of getting there fairly early and still finding the Fastpasses gone.
(Toy Story immediately comes to mind)
And having to walk half the park just to get Fastpasses for the rest of the day.

And it seems like it shouldn’t be that difficult to tweak the software to eliminate most of the cheating.
The system should be able to identify an expired ticket and block it from doing anything.
At the least a ticket not used for entry that day should generate a ‘go talk to a person’ message.

My thoughts on the article:

I’ve heard many people say that FP+ is great because it’s a more effective system than the paper tickets, where people would show up with expired tickets and still be allowed in line, and that would annoy other guests. Clearly this article shows that’s wrong. Showing up after your FP expired is one thing, but there are apparently people profiting off of the loophole in this new system, according to that article. It seems the new system is allowing far more people to “cheat” than was every possible with paper FP if you showed up after your time slot was over. So, I think this change in FP system has made that aspect worse. Clearly they’re taking measures to rectify it, but as other D-Cotters have already mentioned, that’s a lot of time and money they didn’t need to spend, and who will pay for that? You guessed it!

Also, I think a lot of the cheating falls down on CMs. They shouldn’t have been allowing people with expired paper FPs to join the line, and with this new system they could still give the cheaters the benefit of the doubt if they want to be nice and let them join the line, despite seeing a message that they’ve abused the system. I wonder how strict they will actually be.

This will just be the tip of the ice berg! Mark my words the hacking will start soon. All this does is add to the impersonal lack of personal skills generation. Just look around every is looking down at the stupid phones! The place could just be an unfinished construction sit and no one would even notice! Disney is supposed to be an escape from reality for me. I don’t want to have to constantly be looking at my screen! Not to mention all hunch backs we’re going to have walking around in 40 -50 years!